I.. The Dickey Farm

Bob Zybach: No, Kings Valley would be over this way.

James Hanish: Kings Valley is the other side of that big ridge over there.

Bob Zybach: OK. I was thinking Kings Valley would be this way here.

James Hanish: These goats or whatever you want to call them, they were found all through that. a rancher had them, used to just let them run wild. He harvested the wool.

Bob Zybach: But then they went wild?

James Hanish: No, they were domestic sheep that went wild. They had a curled horn. The horn came out and curled . . . no they weren't, they were wild if they'd see you, but they weren't wild game.

Bob Zybach: He took care of them then?

James Hanish: Yes, he had a ranch and took care of them. And lot of times it happened, people had homesteads, they'd leave and leave the stock to forage for themselves. Then they did go into a wild stage.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] That's due west over there.

Bob Zybach: Ok. So that would be Kings Valley Ridge over there. And then this ridge in between.

James Hanish: This ridge. . . that ridge over there.

Bob Zybach: That's the Coast Ridge, and this is the Kings Valley Ridge?

James Hanish: Yes.

Bob Zybach: OK.

I. The Dickey Farm

James Hanish: They'd be to our left.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] So, this hill then through. . . just through this gate probably would have been the site where the original house was for the Dickeys and this

James Hanish: They had a house and barn and . . . it was just like our places, there wasn't a thing left, not even a board.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] And you feel pretty comfortable that this is the probably the route you would have taken?

James Hanish: Yes. One of the ways until we were shut off. Then we walked around and went down near the side of the creek up there on that other road. And the road getting into there was on the left hand. . . going up on the left hand side of Berry Creek and then we'd cross.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] Jim feels that this rise right here might have been where the old Dickey house and barn and stuff sat out in there. This is probably the lane that they'd use to walk up until Dickeys made them go around the other way, when they'd go to get their mail.

Bob Zybach: OK, did you record that?

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] It's all on tape and it's going now.

Bob Zybach: OK.

James Hanish: I used to walk down through here to

Bob Zybach: I'm recording you right now.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] I'm going to go down here and take a look at this.

James Hanish: Yes.

Bob Zybach: You want to go down there too Jim?

Bob Zybach: I've got this tape recorder. We're standing on the Dickey site here.

James Hanish: This is about where the Dickey house was.

Bob Zybach: OK. We're standing next to a flowering quince. That little draw have a name?

James Hanish: No, that's just a little valley that runs on down . . . there used to be a family live down there below, the Stevens family.

Bob Zybach: The Stevens lived down there, maybe about where that field was?

James Hanish: Yes. Then we was at the Hodgson place once before, we went off over in there someplace and the Hodgsons was up on the hill where all those oak trees were cut. And all that poison oak was.

Bob Zybach: OK. We should be driving by there. We've got the Stevens down below us and then. Hanishes were right up here.

James Hanish: Yes, Hanishes were up there.

Bob Zybach: OK. Then down here was the Cootes?

James Hanish: Dickeys and then Cootes.

Bob Zybach: So this is Dickeys here?

James Hanish: This is the Dickey site here.

Bob Zybach: And where we came up in the car there, we were following pretty much what used to be a foot path.

James Hanish: Yes, foot path or a road. There used to be a road through there but. . . like I was telling Kevin, the Dickeys didn't want us coming down through there to get our mail,

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