3.. Suver

Neil Vanderburg: grammar school with old Clifford Cornutt.

George Wisner: Was there still a log shoot there then?

Neil Vanderburg: Yeah there was still a log shoot there then, we climbed up it and it was steep.

George Wisner: That is the one now at the early mill?

Neil Vanderburg: That was the first mill. And I tried to find that in the pickup. I wasn't satisfied with the location Bob and I came to, and so I rented a plane and I flew over it and I couldn't find it flying.

George Wisner: Still couldn't find it?

Neil Vanderburg: No, but I am not satisfied with the terrain that I am finding there. I walked up to the old Chaffin homestead and Bob was completely amazed because I told him about how they had this big 60 acre meadow and all that stuff, and he knew about where it was. I was just going by the seat of my pants by the terrain, and we got up in the area there where I thought it was and there was all these trees this big around in that meadow, that grass meadow. Shoot, they are just about 3 feet in diameter and that was a grass meadow when I was there and naturally seeded with kind of adverse conditions.

George Wisner: That is kind of a big growth then?

Neil Vanderburg: Yeah, people think that we are cutting these big trees and are gone forever. In my lifetime up there, there is a lot of stuff that we logged that has been logged again.

George Wisner: Grown back over. There is a lot of big trees, lot of windfall on that upper Coote site and just a lot of big trees.

Neil Vanderburg: Bob asked me one time, he says he wanted to know what we did with the old growth. And I told him that an old growth as far as us oldtimers are concerned is a breed of tree. I showed him some there that weren't that big around, but they got real deep bark on them and that's where it gets the old growth is the growth of the bark. And I showed him some on that Bill Coote site there, some old growths that were like this. But see I have made lumber for the railroad for the inside of the box car and they required 18 grains to the inch. So you see these little trees with this heavy bark took them 18 years to grow an inch. So that's an old growth.

George Wisner: Yes, that would be.

Neil Vanderburg: But now anything that's 3 feet is an old growth but that is not true.

George Wisner: Ain't necessarily so?

Neil Vanderburg: So anyway that might be of interest to you.

3. Suver

George Wisner: Specifically where are we at right now.

Neil Vanderburg: Well this is the town of Suver. This is where the city was.

George Wisner: This is the center railroad tracks just east of Highway 99 and Richards Store, about a quarter ofa mile.

Neil Vanderburg: This is Suver and there used to be a, right here on this corner, there used to be a kind of a City Hall, they had dances and stuff. It was two story, and where you see your siding right there, Willamette Seed and Grain has taken that over. Right in here was where the planer was on this side of that siding.

George Wisner: The planer was on the west side of the rail siting here?

Neil Vanderburg: Yeah.

George Wisner: What did the planer Consist of?