J.. Lewisburg Saddle Viewpoint

Bob Zybach: How long were the logs that they'd haul?

Roy Cook: God, I can remember bucking and. . . I don't know, 12, 14 feet.

Bob Zybach: Did you buck with the misery whip or did you have chainsaws by then?

Roy Cook: Hell, there wasn't any chainsaw! (laughs) Half the logs you pulled out you just drove the dogs in them, you know, and dragged them out with that and.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] Now, you've got this road identWed as a CCC or earlier? The trail that went out from there? I'd have to check my notes. I've got so much on this map that I can't keep some of it straight. This end of the valley is getting clearer and clearer as I talk to more people, but...

Roy Cook: The creek seems smaller.

Bob Zybach: That's. . . Charlie Olson says thesanie thing. Now, is this, that's not so soapy looking up in here.

Roy Cook: No, not as much down below there. I don't know. But it still has that semi opaque.

Bob Zybach: Did you ever come up.

Roy Cook: I never fished up here.

Bob Zybach: Okay. Do you know jf there was any fish up in here? How about beavers, do you remember any beaver ponds?

Roy Cook: Huh uh. There could have been up here but I don't remember any down below where I fished. There's a lot of wind falls and so on, but no beaver dams or.

Bob Zybach: Did you ever go hunting at all for.

Roy Cook: No.

Bob Zybach: Not even for.

Roy Cook: I was too young.

Bob Zybach: Kind of a nice spot.

Roy Cook: In fact, my dad never went hunting, never went fishing, so I wasn't exposed to it.

Bob Zybach: Ww would you go fishing with?

Roy Cook: Me?

Bob Zybach: Yeah.

Roy Cook: By myself.

Bob Zybach: Oh, so there wasn't anybody.

Roy Cook: I just cut a stick, for gosh sake. I didn't have a fishing pole.

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J. Lewisburg Saddle Viewpoint

Bob Zybach: I'm gonna turn this on. Do you remember this field up here to the east of us? Is that north?

Roy Cook: It was open, but.

Bob Zybach: All these trees have pretty much come in then.

Roy Cook: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: Okay.

Roy Cook: Quite a view.

Bob Zybach: Yeah. There's Coffin Butte, and there's that new quarry we could see, and then that's the area, out through there, the Cook's place through there, and it came up in the draw through here. In fact I think the red house is right below the hill here. Can you . . . does anything out through here, do you remember any landmarks or does anything kind of ring any bells to you?

Roy Cook: Never saw it from this perspective.

Bob Zybach: Okay.

Roy Cook: Well, there was no houses out in through there, obviously. And we logged right along about where those little houses are down in there I think, because we weren't very far up the hill.

Bob Zybach: Oh, so you were on the toe of that hill there.

Roy Cook: Right.

Bob Zybach: Now, did that hill have any name to it that you can remember?

Roy Cook: No.

Bob Zybach: Baker's Mountain?

Roy Cook: No.

Bob Zybach: Writsman 's K'zob? Nothing like that. Okay.

Roy Cook: I'm a total failure on names.

Bob Zybach: Oh, that's fine. If you can't remember them, none of the rest of us even know, so, I mean, we can just put it down to your mom or somebody who an authority.

Roy Cook: Well things just didn't have names.

Bob Zybach: There's so few fanjilies, youdidn 't need landmarks. Maybe the houses were the landmarks, you 'd just say "The Cook's Place," or the.

Roy Cook: Yeah, such and such a place.

Bob Zybach: Okay. Do you remember the names of the places along the creek? Was it called "The Marcks' Place?"

Roy Cook: Yeah, and the Cook place, and the Dorgan place, and the Glenders, and Goviers. But, and then you mentioned some names that, hell, I'd forgotten about, like Baker, I hadn't heard that, and "Junk" I hadn't heard that for, oh God, I didn't even know what his last name was. I'd undoubtedly heard it.

Kevin Sherer: [KEVIN] Where did these [planted] trees come from? Urn, that was planted by Starker or somebody. That's the hill [Baker Mountain], Kevin, where the old line goes up to where Miller's house and Olsons were. And you don't rernernber the Olson's at all though?

Roy Cook: No, for some reason or other it draws a blank.

Bob Zybach: I think they were before your time. They 're in their 90's, they 're your mom's age.

Roy Cook: I draw a blank on that.

Bob Zybach: Well, this is about the last stop I had here, is there, can you think. . . you 'ye got a few minutes left on the tape.

Roy Cook: I don't know what it'd be.

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Bob Zybach: So, when you were going to Oregon State, as a summer job, was that through the College that you ran those 3C kids? So that would be in the 30's, right?

Roy Cook: Yeah. 1936.

Bob Zybach: Did you do any work out at Camp Arboretwn?

Roy Cook: No, no, I was down at Reedsport. Elliott State Forest.

Bob Zybach: Okay, were there vely rnany College people from Oregon State that worked on Elliott State Forest at that time?

Roy Cook: No, there were just two of us. They'd pitch in two to that one and two to some other one, and you know.

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