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OSU-Elliott Research Economics, December 21, 2021

ORWWmedia · 1:27:07 · Jan 3, 2022

A video from Bob Zybach's ORWWmedia playlist, with the time-coded index he wrote into its description: 69 entries.

Provenance

Creator
Dr. Bob Zybach
Channel
ORWWmedia
Published
Jan 3, 2022
Length
1:27:07
Accession
Accessioned from Bob Zybach’s upload to the shared Drive, 2026-08-23.

Time codes

69 entries, as written in the video description. Select a time to start the video there.

  1. Paul Odenthal, OSU VP for Finance: Introductions & Outline
  2. Anna Magnuson: Elliott Forest Project Coordinator
  3. Katy Kavanaugh: Assoc. Dean of Research, College of Forestry
  4. Randy Rosenberger: Assoc. Dean of Forestry
  5. Shannon Murray: Elliott Forest Program Director
  6. Geoff Huntington: Dept. of State Lands (DSL)
  7. Shannon: Slide 1: OSU Elliott Budget Model, December 15, 2021
  8. Slide 2: Presentation Overview
  9. Slide 3: Introduction: OSU Elliott Proposal Background and Budget Model
  10. Slides 4-5: Mason, Bruce & Girard (MBG) 50-Year Revenue Assumptions
  11. Slide 6: MBG Subbasin-scale Revenue Analysis
  12. Slide 7: MBG "Decision Tree" Re: 2020 "Extensive" Age Groups
  13. Slide 8: MBG 50-Year Estimated Harvest/Treatment/Year
  14. Slide 9: MBG 17 MMBF/Year Harvest/Revenue Estimates
  15. Slides 10-11: OSU Estimated $5M+ Annual Expenditures
  16. Slide 12: OSU 20-Year $35M+ "Ramp-Up Budget"
  17. Slide 13: OSU Estimated 3-Year $35M Start-Up Costs
  18. Slide 14: OSU Estimated $17M Infrastructure Start-Up
  19. Slide 15: OSU Estimated $10M Working Capital Start-Up
  20. Slide 16: OSU Estimated Research Costs: Start-Up & Annual
  21. Slide 17: OSU Estimated Research Costs: "Carbon Example"
  22. Slide 18: Long-Term Research Example: H.J. Andrews Forest
  23. Slide 19: OSU Budget Model Assumptions
  24. Slide 20: Conclusion
  25. Paul: Original cost estimates based on assumed OSU ownership & legislature
  26. Paul: Introduces Tom DeLuca, Dean of College of Forestry
  27. Peggy Lynch, League of Women Voters: "When will budget be updated?"
  28. Paul: OSU will work w/DSL & legislature to create "independent authority"
  29. Sue Craig, Sierra Club: "Plan seems to be very limited & timber focused"
  30. Shannon: Budget, so far, based entirely on MBG timber harvest model
  31. Randy: Earlier design considered carbon credits, but sustainability shown w/o
  32. Shannon: "Carbon is a huge part of research proposal & management plan"
  33. Clark Seely, Elliott Manager, 1989-1994: "Budget for ESA compliance?"
  34. Katy: "We do have major monitoring program" for variety of species/HCPs
  35. Clark: History of ESA "take avoidance surveys" costs & current budget?
  36. Geoff: "DSL worked closely with OSU to develop HCP accordance"
  37. Janet Moore, Coast Range Forest Watch: "Carbon market inequalities?"
  38. Tom: "Ethics one of reasons we have been careful about carbon markets"
  39. Peggy: "Where are $35M, MBG budget & Common School Fund appraisal?"
  40. Paul: DSL is working on $35M start-up & also on appraisal
  41. Shannon: MBG 2020 analysis & current Elliott management plan evolving
  42. Geoff: 2016 appraisal being updated; Governor's priority is "decoupling"
  43. Peggy: "What happened to the Shutter Creek Tour?"
  44. Kevin Shanley: "Is year 1 budget of $24M practical? It seems inadequate"
  45. Shannon: We are looking at adjusting numbers between years 1 & 2
  46. Paul: We are trying to be conservative & have a sustainable model that
  47. Geoff: The "other piece of equation is new entity, 'authority,' would go into effect"
  48. Shannon: Year 1 projected to be Fiscal Year 2024, so time to get pieces together
  49. Paul: Shutter Creek Correctional Center visit & consideration as OSU opportunity
  50. Bob Zybach, ORWW.org: Common School Fund, local jobs vs. research design?
  51. Tom: Fire history is reality we see as opportunity; small polygons informative
  52. Katy: Very interested in landslide potential & need for windthrow research
  53. Bob: Can I rephrase question: "Research design does not consider salvage?"
  54. Katy: "Reserves" no; "intensive" yes; "extensive" maybe -- depends on "values"
  55. Bob: "The question was [salvage-related local] jobs, not personal values"
  56. Katy: MBG 17 mmbf/year sales will create jobs; less than ORWW 50 mmbf/year
  57. Paul: "It's about balance; we're trying to get that balance here as well"
  58. Janet: Why is "stand alone public entity" needed?
  59. Paul: Part is potential liability issue for OSU; new "entity" would mitigate risk
  60. Tom: Another value of "entity" is devotion to the OSU Elliott research focus
  61. Paul: For OSU, this [entity] reduces financial risk, not commitment to Elliott
  62. Clark: Road maintenance costs: included in plan budget or contracted?
  63. Shannon: OSU Elliott management plan is dynamic; needs outside expertise
  64. Paul: Appreciates Janet's written comments about "Mr. Gould filling potholes"
  65. Katy: In all harvest projections we've included road costs as well
  66. Paul: One of proposal goals is to support the local economy
  67. Clark: Elliott history shows road maintenance more efficient when contracted
  68. Paul: Thanks to all for sharing: "we're on a fast road to legislation"
  69. Tom: Thanks to all: "your questions really push us and are very helpful"

The description, as written

The video's description exactly as it stands on YouTube, including the time codes above.

0:00  Paul Odenthal, OSU VP for Finance: Introductions & Outline

3:31  Anna Magnuson: Elliott Forest Project Coordinator

3:41  Katy Kavanaugh: Assoc. Dean of Research, College of Forestry

4:00  Randy Rosenberger: Assoc. Dean of Forestry

4:10  Shannon Murray: Elliott Forest Program Director

4:30  Geoff Huntington: Dept. of State Lands (DSL)

4:55  Shannon: Slide 1: OSU Elliott Budget Model, December 15, 2021
5:26  Slide 2: Presentation Overview
6:23  Slide 3: Introduction: OSU Elliott Proposal Background and Budget Model
8:02  Slides 4-5: Mason, Bruce & Girard (MBG) 50-Year Revenue Assumptions
9:52  Slide 6: MBG Subbasin-scale Revenue Analysis
12:11  Slide 7: MBG "Decision Tree" Re: 2020 "Extensive" Age Groups
13:40  Slide 8: MBG 50-Year Estimated Harvest/Treatment/Year
16:40  Slide 9: MBG 17 MMBF/Year Harvest/Revenue Estimates
17:49  Slides 10-11: OSU Estimated $5M+ Annual Expenditures
23:15  Slide 12: OSU 20-Year $35M+ "Ramp-Up Budget"
25:47  Slide 13: OSU Estimated 3-Year $35M Start-Up Costs
26:55  Slide 14: OSU Estimated $17M Infrastructure Start-Up
28:09  Slide 15: OSU Estimated $10M Working Capital Start-Up
28:41  Slide 16: OSU Estimated Research Costs: Start-Up & Annual
29:24  Slide 17: OSU Estimated Research Costs: "Carbon Example"
31:04  Slide 18: Long-Term Research Example: H.J. Andrews Forest
31:47  Slide 19: OSU Budget Model Assumptions
32:47  Slide 20: Conclusion

32:54  Paul: Original cost estimates based on assumed OSU ownership & legislature

33:30  Paul: Introduces Tom DeLuca, Dean of College of Forestry

34:55  Peggy Lynch, League of Women Voters: "When will budget be updated?"
35:50  Paul: OSU will work w/DSL & legislature to create "independent authority"

36:57  Sue Craig, Sierra Club: "Plan seems to be very limited & timber focused"
38:13  Shannon: Budget, so far, based entirely on MBG timber harvest model
39:44  Randy: Earlier design considered carbon credits, but sustainability shown w/o 
41:22  Shannon: "Carbon is a huge part of research proposal & management plan"

41:49  Clark Seely, Elliott Manager, 1989-1994: "Budget for ESA compliance?" 
44:01  Katy: "We do have major monitoring program" for variety of species/HCPs
45:40  Clark: History of ESA "take avoidance surveys" costs & current budget?
47:30  Geoff: "DSL worked closely with OSU to develop HCP accordance"

48:10  Janet Moore, Coast Range Forest Watch: "Carbon market inequalities?"
50:04  Tom: "Ethics one of reasons we have been careful about carbon markets"

52:00  Peggy: "Where are $35M, MBG budget & Common School Fund appraisal?"
53:44  Paul: DSL is working on $35M start-up & also on appraisal
54:30  Shannon: MBG 2020 analysis & current Elliott management plan evolving
55:45  Geoff: 2016 appraisal being updated; Governor's priority is "decoupling"
58:12  Peggy: "What happened to the Shutter Creek Tour?"

58:28  Kevin Shanley: "Is year 1 budget of $24M practical? It seems inadequate"
59:33  Shannon: We are looking at adjusting numbers between years 1 & 2
1:00:51  Paul: We are trying to be conservative & have a sustainable model that
1:01:15  Geoff: The "other piece of equation is new entity, 'authority,' would go into effect"
1:01:56  Shannon: Year 1 projected to be Fiscal Year 2024, so time to get pieces together

1:02:12  Paul: Shutter Creek Correctional Center visit & consideration as OSU opportunity

1:03:25  Bob Zybach, ORWW.org: Common School Fund, local jobs vs. research design?
1:05:28  Tom: Fire history is reality we see as opportunity; small polygons informative
1:08:38  Katy: Very interested in landslide potential & need for windthrow research
1:11:03  Bob: Can I rephrase question: "Research design does not consider salvage?"
1:11:48  Katy: "Reserves" no; "intensive" yes; "extensive" maybe -- depends on "values"
1:13:09  Bob: "The question was [salvage-related local] jobs, not personal values"
1:13:14  Katy: MBG 17 mmbf/year sales will create jobs; less than ORWW 50 mmbf/year
1:13:29  Paul: "It's about balance; we're trying to get that balance here as well"

1:13:34  Janet: Why is "stand alone public entity" needed?
1:14:46  Paul: Part is potential liability issue for OSU; new "entity" would mitigate risk
1:17:32  Tom: Another value of "entity" is devotion to the OSU Elliott research focus 
1:19:34  Paul: For OSU, this [entity] reduces financial risk, not commitment to Elliott

1:20:01  Clark: Road maintenance costs: included in plan budget or contracted?
1:21:25  Shannon: OSU Elliott management plan is dynamic; needs outside expertise
1:23:16  Paul: Appreciates Janet's written comments about "Mr. Gould filling potholes"
1:23:31  Katy: In all harvest projections we've included road costs as well
1:23:47  Paul: One of proposal goals is to support the local economy
1:24:03  Clark: Elliott history shows road maintenance more efficient when contracted

1:24:57  Paul: Thanks to all for sharing: "we're on a fast road to legislation"
1:25:40  Tom: Thanks to all: "your questions really push us and are very helpful"

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