C.. Fir Timber

Bob Zybach: So 150 or 2(X) or 3(X) feet off in this direction [west], we should be able to come across the old saw mill site?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And you don't recall anybody that worked there?

Eugene Glender: No. I can't even remember the name for sure of the guy that run it. I do once in awhile I can remember his name and then I forget it again.

Bob Zybach: Okay so f you remember it, and look at the transcript I give you, can you write it in?

Eugene Glender: Probably. [Still couldn't recall in July 1994]

Bob Zybach: Okay, can you think of anything else at this stop?

Eugene Glender: No.

C. Fir Timber

Eugene Glender: Right up in here someplace as far as I can remember.

Jan Meranda: [Jan] That's what I wanted to ... kind of hike up in through there.

Bob Zybach: We don't want to do it today, though

Jan Meranda: [Jan] That cleared spot.

Bob Zybach: What 's the mileage Jan?

Jan Meranda: [Jan] 610.4.

Bob Zybach: 610.4. So this is the spot where the old mill was.

Eugene Glender: Back ... along in here someplace.

Bob Zybach: It could be fifty or hundred yards back in there?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And we can see a skid trail heading west?

Eugene Glender: Well, those roads like that you can't go by anymore.

Bob Zybach: How about this road just over the hill here, didn't they cut through this hill here since World War II or was this the way the road always came?

Eugene Glender: This road [Tainpico Road] was always here.

Bob Zybach: Cut right through the hill like this?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: Okay, can you remember any ... did they have any houses next to the mill? Did the miller live in a house?

Eugene Glender: As far as I know it ... it seems like there was one or two houses, but I'm not sure.

Bob Zybach: So, on this whole hill here between here and the Ber,y Creek side, there was the one house down by the [Gardner] apple orchard where nobody lived and it might not have even been a house and this sawmill that might have had a house or two?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And the road was lying pretty much the way it is now?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And this was all in fir timber about the size it is now?

Eugene Glender: Yeah, I think so.

Bob Zybach: Okay, in those days, you can't remember any beaver, we didn't get that on the recording?

Eugene Glender: No, there was no beaver in the country at all.

Bob Zybach: Okay, we'll probably talk about wi1dlfe down a little bit more when we get down in the [Soap Creek] Valley. Can you recall anything else about this area, lots ofpoison oak or

Eugene Glender: Well, yeah. There is always lots of poison oak.

Bob Zybach: And that went all through the country?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: How about manzanita [mo4rone], not that's ... ?

Eugene Glender: Laurel?

Bob Zybach: You call that laurel there?

Eugene Glender: It looks pert near like it.

Bob Zybach: Was there laurel in the neighborhood?

Eugene Glender: Oh, not a whole lot.

Bob Zybach: Did the cows ever eat it, or have any problem with stock with it?

Eugene Glender: No, not that. You're thinking of larkspur, probably.

Bob Zybach: Yeah, they called it Laurel Hill around Mount Hood, it's ... called dfferen.t things; laurel.

Eugene Glender: Probably a different kind of thing.

Bob Zybach: I see. Well, let's see, can you think of anything else that comes to mind at this point?

Eugene Glender: No.

Bob Zybach: Okay.