M.. Beef Barn Road

Eugene Glender: I came over to go fishing with their boy.

Bob Zybach: So they had a son too?

Eugene Glender: Two boys and a girl ... I mean the early people [Griffm].

Bob Zybach: Oh, I see, the ones you can't remember their na,nes?

Eugene Glender: Yeah. I don't know why I can't think of it, I knew them real well, but it's just you've got me scared out. [Laughs]

Bob Zybach: Well, we can look it up.

Jan Meranda: [Jan] It will come to mind, I'm sure.

Bob Zybach: Yeah, those are the types of things we can look up, but ... so people that lived before you can remember them?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And you used to go fishing with the boy.

Eugene Glender: Yeah, I knew Mallow too.

Bob Zybach: Oh, okay. And then did you ever come over and spend the night or anything like that?

Eugene Glender: No.

Bob Zybach: But just go fishing or something?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And he was about your age?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: Okay.

M. Beef Barn Road

Bob Zybach: Okay, we're on the beef barn road and there wasn't nothing here. This was Mallow's place?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: And that would be

Eugene Glender: They had a bridge, but right now I can't remember just right where it was anymore now.

Bob Zybach: Okay, we can probably find that on an old photograph, but there was a track and bridge and then he'd get up in the hills right through here?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: How about the family before what did you say ... Max and Guy?

Eugene Glender: I can't think of their names. [Griffin]

Jan Meranda: [Jan] John and Lola and Guy and Max. And what was his [Guy] wife's name?

Eugene Glender: Hazel.

Jan Meranda: [Jan] Hazel.

Bob Zybach: Now did they farm this area, the earlier ... before Mallow?

Eugene Glender: Yeah, he done some ... he farmed in through here. See, this went clear up here to this other fence up here.

Bob Zybach: And so they ... but would that bridge have been put in by Mallows or would they have already had one in?

Eugene Glender: That I can't ... I think there was ... there was a bridge there ... through there already.

Bob Zybach: Oh, okay. Was there any swimming holes or any special places along the creek through here?

Eugene Glender: Wherever you wanted to swim.

Bob Zybach: Okay, but the one swimming hole you showed me down there ... was the main one?

Eugene Glender: Well, that's where it was handy for all the kids around there to go. See, when I was down here fishing, I just ... any place I come to deep enough to swim then I'd go swimming.

Bob Zybach: Were there any deep holes in here?

Eugene Glender: Well, nothing real deep, nothing over my head.

Bob Zybach: So, three orfourfoot was about as deep as it got?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.

Bob Zybach: Was it muddy, or cold, or anything?

Eugene Glender: Cold!

Bob Zybach: Okay.

Eugene Glender: Yeah, it wasn't muddy; it was a nice clear creek.

Bob Zybach: But you never found any Indian artifacts and other than those elephant teeth was there any fossils or anything unusual through here?

Eugene Glender: No, I never did see any.

Bob Zybach: No beaver, just a regular creek ... did it look pretty much in those days like it looks now?

Eugene Glender: Yeah.